Well, I figured that since Spongebob- Proof Of Spandy was so popular that I would do something that's different but also the same. I've written a little mini rant/opinions on an issue that isn't nearly as annoying as it used to be but it's still suck around for a quite a while everywhere I've been (Ex. DevArt, Fanfiction Net, LiveJournal). So, hope you can all enjoy and leave whatever comments you feel necessary. I would love to hear your opinions.
First I shall address Mary-Sues. Here's the five bad points of a Mary-Sue:
The name is only a slight problem. As in, it's not really one to be too concerned about but it is something that could give a good character a bad image. A name such as 'Melony Butterfly Lily DeeDee Silver Jay Hannah Rose, Melony Rose for short' is not going to give anyone a pretty image of your character and people will get tired just by trying to say it. Any sane parents would not give their child such a long and complicated name, just for the sake of the child, really.
Names and their origins
Another point to make is that you never have to have a reason for a name but one that is not of your own origin needs an explanation. Having an American girl with an Indian name would not go un-noticed and people are bound to be curious about it. Always have reasons otherwise it's just going to be another syndrome for the Mary-Sue plague. I have a character of my own that has a Greek name even though she is American. I have a simple, yet reasonable, explanation for this. Her aunt is infertile therefore she looks to the support of her sister who granted her the wish to name her children. It's nothing exciting or glamorous but it is an explanation for my character's name. If you have trouble searching a name that is unique but is still your character's origins, Google names and you'll find a ton online.
Searching for a name
Nothing ever has to be hard work so neither does finding a good name. But before just searching for names, why don't you go more in depth by figuring out what your character's personality may be like and then take that to find a unique name that suits their personality. It's easy to search for what names mean so take a name from a website's list that you have found, place that name in a name generator and find out the name's meaning. This doesn't have to be all the time as you could just as easily search for names in Google and just pick out the one you like best, but it shows you put a lot more effort into your character when you have everything about them planned, including something as small as the name.
A common occurrence for most Mary-sues is their background is always bad. Nothing can be good for their childhood and their parents always have to be killed, they can't survive at all. So, Mary-sues are made orphans. But if your parents are killed, you can't live a life all on your own. Not even Naruto lived a full life on his own. Despite living in an apartment on his own, Naruto had the help of the hokage some of his life. He was always there looking out for Naruto. So, if your parents have died and you really want her/him to be alone in an apartment, make sure to have an adult to supervise them until they're allowed to own their own house.
You don't always have to have deceased parents. To avoid making your character a Mary-sue, have them have parents. You could even have it where your parents are divorced so you don't have two parents around all the time if that's what you want. Having parents will ultimately make them better characters.
It's important to keep track on their past friendships and whoever it was and how close your character was with them. Nothing says a good backstory like past people and detailed relationships. It doesn't have to be that detailed, just enough to know who they were friends with and how close. Everyone has a childhood friend, if they grew up with them long enough. And if your character has grown up with anyone, even if your character and their childhood friend wasn't that close, they still grew up together.
This isn't a point that needs to be stressed strongly but it is vital to their past if you are to have that character come up in future or if you want to get an all-around picture of what your character is like and how their life has been.
A common occurrence for Mary-sues is tragic traumas that happen in their past lives. It's normally a girl who has been brutally raped and was shunned by society so she grows up to live a life as an orphan because her parents abandoned her/were killed/never really took notice of her. I'm not saying there can't be a tragedy in their past but having it where her parents are then killed and then she grows up to live mostly happy is not a good thing. Sure, there's always the plus side that your OC doesn't whine all the time about it but if her parents are killed then she's going to be lacking social skills and won't be the most popular in the group.
If you're trying to give her/him a tragic past, try and come up with a decent plot. Not anything like raped or experimented on. The latter can only be used if it were to be based upon something that's sci-fi related. Maybe you could have a tragic past where your character ends up in a car crash with her/his parents and they all survive but your character is suffering from emotional stress over it and can't seem to wrap their head around it. That could lead to many different possibilities and ideas you could branch off of.
Personality and social skills
The most normal thing nowadays for some OC is they'll be really unemotional/really hyper and have a fierce temper. If your character is one that has a fierce temper, no-one's going to befriend her/him that quickly as she will be hostile towards them at first and give them a very unpleasant first impression. If you want your character to be angry most of the time, you have to give it time before she gains friends as it's not as easy as some people make it out to be. Same goes for if your character is unemotional. If they really do show little to no emotions, she/he's not going to find it easy in gaining friends as it'll be difficult to approach, let alone talk to anyone as their social skills will be lacking a lot.
Build up their character and build up the friendships around them. You could have a very stubborn character constantly bug your character until they decide to be friends with this annoying individual.
Strengths and flaws
All characters have their strengths and weaknesses but your character is definitely lacking in personality if they're strong with no flaws. Most Mary-sues have it where they have super human strength and no physical or mental weaknesses as if they can't be defeated. You can't give your character all the powers in the book and not give her any weaknesses. Superman can practically do anything but he has a weakness. True, this weakness would be very hard to find but he still has a weakness. His happens to be kryptonite and he can be defeated as he has villains chasing him all the time, some probably owning this kryptonite.
A human owning all those powers must be stressed all the time as they should be worried over someone finding out and trying to exploit it all the time. There has to be some weakness there.
Your character needs weaknesses to make them human. A human without flaws aren't human at all. Nothing makes you a better person than when you value your own flaws. More people will respect your character if you can give them obvious flaws. Not flaws such as she/he can't sing, she/he's clumsy or they can't dance. That's not flaws; that's just a creator's excuse to get out of giving their character proper flaws. A flaw is something like a crooked nose or not being able to run properly as their legs go all over the place. Something as simple as she/he can't see straight as they are partially blind would even be reasonable.
Mary-sues are known for having incredible talents and not knowing when to stop. Most often or not, Mary-sues can sing, play the flute and shoot a brilliant goal in less than a minute. I could understand if your character can sing, dance and act because they all belong in the same category. They are all to do with arts and performances but having a character be an excellent cook, is able to dance and can shoot a perfect bow and arrow onto a target is not qualified as good character development. It just makes them cheap fandom whores who deserve nothing but a slap around the head.
Keep the talents in check and make sure to have them be reasonable to your character.
First of all, there is no such thing as perfection. So to have a character have a perfect body is just a reason for you to imagine yourself as being perfect. No-one could easily have big breasts, tiny waist and a curvy figure. Proportionally, a tiny waist would not be able to keep up enormous breasts as your waist would snap. If you want your character to be skinny, you can't have them have big breasts. Skinny would equal small or average sized breasts and a less than curvy figure. Having big breasts means having big hips with a big torso, big ribcage and chunky legs and arms. And you have to have broader shoulders to be able to have big breasts, otherwise your character's body would be out of proportion.
If you look up different body shapes, pear shapes are the ones with big breasts whereas spoon shapes are the ones with little hips and small breasts but skinny waist and legs.
Research is the key to a good character. Good character means having a 3-dimensional personality. And having a 3-dimensional personality means you can connect with your character more and people will enjoy your character just as much as you.
How to create a decent character
Creating a decent character only takes time and some small research on your behalf. Fictional characters need to be 3-dimensional so that if you were to write a story of your character, we would then be able to feel emotions for it, whether it's disliking them for being a jerk, loving them for doing a sweet thing for someone else or feeling sympathy for them as they go through sorrow.
Characters need development so as you go along creating your character, remember, you don't have to stop right there. You can keep going back and adding things to their personality, flaws, talents, and powers, whatever. The thing is you can never stop developing your character. Developing a character is a very simple and fun thing to do.
As you sit down and think over what kind of character you want, maybe you could base your character's personality on someone you know. Doesn't have to be someone you're close to, just anyone you would like to have as a personality for your character. You can even start with the basics before grounding it down into details. Is your character a sporty person, a girly-girl, a tomboy, an overdramatic control freak? Anything will do, they just have to have a personality.
As time goes on, you will be finding yourself enjoying your character as you figure even more things about them. You will start to develop their looks, their little kinks, their little perks and you will start to put in some little details there like, she/he chews their top lip when they're excited. One thing you do have to remind yourself, no matter how silly this may seem, is that your character is always right. You have to listen to your character like it's actually there.
So, if your character doesn't want to get the hero, don't pair them off with the hero. If your character doesn't want to like apples, make her/him hate apples. My point is that if it doesn't feel right when you put down that they like cakes; change it. When it doesn't feel right, that's basically your character trying to tell you that it doesn't like the direction you're heading with it.
The most important thing you have to do while making a character is have fun. If you're not having fun, then stop right there! Don't carry on. If it's not fun, what's the point of having an OC?
And that's it for now~! I hope you enjoyed this and hopefully, this will help you when you are trying to create a character. Have fun and comment if you have any opinions on this~!
Thanks for all the faves in this~!! You guys are amazing and keep those comments coming. Your opinions are love to me and are so interesting to read. If there is anything you would like to see me rant on next, feel free to leave me a comment
Guys, when I say it's not possible to have a skinny waist and big breasts, I'm talking about the people who make the chest area F-cups or G-cups. You know, completely unnatural proportions.
Also, for the face of your OC, you can make your OC attractive. Yes, you heard me, you can make your OC attractive to others but your OC will not be attractive to everyone. Look at celebrities for an example, some are attractive to others, some are not. For instance, some people may find Tom Hiddleston attractive, some may not, and yet, he is an attractive guy.
Do you see how it works?
If you know a Mary-sue OC that you despise, popular in the fandom or not, send them my way and I'll be sure to do a rant/critique of them.
I don't do critiques on anybody's OC's anymore, sorry. I will only do rants now on OC's if there's one that's bad enough.
To elaborate: if your character is THE BEST at one hobby, they probably don't have many others. The more you spread your focus, the less specialized you get.
Yeah, that's true. If you're really good at something like web design, your focus probably wouldn't be on tennis and so, you wouldn't be great at it maybe. It could still be a hobby for your character but you've got to think realistically.
Exactly, especially because web design involves a lot of sitting still and thus doesn't do much good for anything related to tennis. Running, on the other hand, would mix well. But this is just me being too argumentative again.
No, no, it's good to see another's point of view honestly. You're right, running might do well for someone who's into web design. It's not too fast paced (jogging), it keeps the character fit while not having to do much and it's not time consuming.
Good luck and I hope you have a great day too!
Is that a Sueish name?
ahaahha sorry if you're tired of those oc critism and stuff but could you probably look at my oc siiri and suggest something to make her better?she's getting clouded with shit sdfg (feel free to critique any way you want i've created the worst mary sue ever once so i'm fine -v-) (P.S: she's from a completely original world,so you don't need to look up any fandoms =v= )
selenia 'siiri' lynne heavenhost
fallen angel (highest rank skhdfg)
job (?): judge
personality: pretty cold at times,sometimes friendly,often disapproving and sometimes looses her mind
siiri was born in a noble/aristocrat family.her mother is a priestess and her father is a teacher.being homeschooled and isolated in the early years siiri acquired the nonchanal personality she has now.in early teens her mother dropped her off at a maid academy where she met her first friend marina whisp(now cross) and they became really close.siiri never liked to be picked on.but when that happened the first time thing went really bad.having too many sins siiri got sent to hell to serve lucifer instead.then marina got dismissed without a reason aswell.after a year or so siiri escaped with about 13 sins.that's when demons started flowing in and feeling like something had to be done,siiri started fighting demons in order to stop the overflow.that's also when she met akyla.her parents were murdered by a demon and she got brainwashed by it aswell.with time siiri gained 2 more friends them being named aria and twinkie.all of their parents were killed by demons so that was an another reason to fight.meanwhile,an angel hunteru nder the name alestair cross was sent to take care of that (as demons saw it) shameless angel.but because of alestair's weak resistance he switched sides and now no longer hunts angels.after a few years siiri left the fighting business and took onto the judge job.she's also plagued by jealousy of having black and white wings almost all her life.looking at all the colours and happy people hurts siiri even though she knows she should be happy for those poeple. (not much to write about her really shdgh)
here you have an age chart,fufufu. fav.me/d68w944
p.s: she's not goth or anything.i just really like gothic lolita because it fits siiri's personality a bit -v-
You will need a more in depth explanation to her personality, to be honest. While being brief is easier, it's also the worst way to showcase an OC. It doesn't help people to get to know her. The way you described it makes her personality seem flip-floppy, you know? She seems to be a bit of everything what with being cold at times but also friendly. It's quite vague, don't you think? We all can be cold and yet, friendly at times especially when different people get put into the mix but that's where a personality comes in. Would her personality allow for her to speak her mind to the people she's cold with? Who does she tend to be more friendly towards? Is there any part of her personality that can suggest she has a fun side? Also, you say she loses her mind. Do you care to explain more on that? How does she lose her mind? Is there anything that sets her off? Are you saying she goes crazy or she gets furious? Because losing your mind can mean two things; Either she's mentally insane or she gets out of control when she finally snaps and becomes angry.
About the backstory, you said Siiri has a nonchalant personality. How did she sin then given that she's quite...emotionless? (I suppose sinning would be easier without the use of emotions coming into play). What crimes/dastardly acts did she commit that were so bad that she had to actually serve Lucifer for? Because a sin that's as dry and bland as killing someone wouldn't be nearly as evil enough to need to serve Lucifer for. And while having many sins can build up to how bad a person is, it all depends on how cruel the sins were.
Her parents got murdered? Is there any backstory to that other than the brief explanation of being killed off by a demon? And how did this effect her? Because surely it would really be damaging to her emotional state. Also, having a weak resistance despite being an angel hunter causing him to switch sides seems like a pretty weak explanation and reason on how Alestair switched sides. It would make more sense if over time angels constantly rescued him for whatever reason and he had one following him perhaps, like a guardian angel and that really sent him into an inner turmoil until he chose the side of good. Just a suggestion.
There's also one minor thing that bugs me: Their names. All of their names sound like pop star singers; Marina, Siiri, Akyla, Twinkie (??). But that one could be ignored.
Other than those things, I really enjoy the layout for the story you've got here, with the angels and hunters and demons with Lucifer. One thing is missing though which is the plot for the story but this is a critique for your character so never mind that. Your character's design is pretty cute and quite fitting. However, be wary of the facial design. Eyes don't get bigger over time, it's actually the head that grows and that just makes the eyes seem smaller in comparison to the head. She seems to have a more mature looking face when she's younger than when she's older. Slanting the eyes doesn't make her look older. But shrinking them and stretching the face vertically will change the appearance.
Good luck with your character and I hope I didn't seem too blunt
The back story has gotten better too. I now understand her job and why she has been soughting demons to kill them and how she met these friends of hers. The only thing that still isn't explained, unless you got rid of that part, was how her parents were killed. Also, saying you won't explain the events that turned Alestair because of Siiri might cause a bit of confusion for your watchers who are interested in this character. But it's up to you.
So, you've done great this time around and I really like your character, along with the drawing which is lovely
No, no, I didn't wish to put you off. Your anatomy and the drawing itself was quite lovely, it was just something about the face that I felt the need to explain on. And please don't feel that you can't make characters good because we all have characters that we start of with and they're mediocre characters but then we grow and make better ones.
Other than that, I have to say good job. Because she seems interesting, enough for me to want to know more about her. And I believe working on the things I have suggested could bring her more to life. I'm just sorry I couldn't give more of an opinion on your character due to the lack of experience and knowledge on the anime/manga she's based on.
I suggest the first season but you can skip the second of black butler (it feels like a badly written fanfiction.) She really had no childhood since she was created and not born? So that means she had no parents unless you count God. Her husband is dead so you won't be able to see them interact...and the fact that it happened a long time ago means you probably never will. The fact that she became homeless after his death and left to live in the streets as a commoner can explain itself on how she became "rough around the edges." As for friends that would require more original characters, and they had to be more of acquaintances since she has been living on her own. She isn't meant to be happy go lucky and the husband was not meant to be dark. Imagine being married, while there seems to be a seventy year age gap. Its just an example but you can see how it could be strange if not uncomfortable.
They were two people in love, but I didn't intend for this to be a love story. It focuses on her development as a character and struggle to reach her goal to return to heaven before she disappears. Her husband was just the reason she got stuck. Looking at most anime with flashbacks to scenes with parents (with child) or future parents in love, all you see are happy moments with no real indication of anything deeper than that they were happy together and they have deep emotional attachments with their love ones. Reading this, it sounds like a weak excuse, but that's how it usually is. ex: Tsubasa chronicles, Naruto, most anime with sweet childhood friend scenes, etc.
As for his reputation being his flaw, while that is unique, it's not really plausible. Loads of historian figures over time despite being evil and sinful have had multiple women adore them. So finding a woman to marry and bear children shouldn't really be too hard, especially if he is as handsome as you make him. Take Rasputin for instances; Killed dozens, still married a queen who adored him. But you can still have the reputation as a flaw, it's really good. Just have it more to do with not being able to get into shops, bars, places or talk with many high authorities should he need to because of how feared he is.
The overall character is interesting but I'm not sure I quite understand one part; Are you saying that the slave, who was Johnny's best friend and the one he saved from eating this devil fruit, broke his arm? Because that would seem incredulous to me. That's a major generous favour for Johnny to do and if the slave is his best friend, I can't see the slave breaking his arm just out of nowhere. Or maybe I just need more context to understand the situation. Also, considering he was birthed under royalty, wouldn't there be someone he comes across along the way who recognises him and tries to take him back to the palace or wherever he used to live?
Overall, this character seems really interesting for the most part. You have a strong storyline going along here, some good side characters for him to interact with and you've managed to balance out his flaws, weaknesses, powers and physical appearance. Some tips I would give you is to look over the last few paras where I have questions and fill in the answers or figure some out if you have none and also, he needs more work on his personality. I couldn't see his personality in this, I haven't gotten a feel of his character and what he would do in certain situations; Obviously I am aware he's a brutal killer but has a generous side, but surely there's more to him, right?
Good luck and while I do recommend taking advice from the people around you, just know that my opinion does not always affect how good of a character you have